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Posted: Apr 15 2012, 10:38 AM
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Remember the SAR Boats the RAAF operated out of several ports, Newcastle & Townsville.

On holidays in Tasmania at Port Arthur Histroical Site on Thursday 12 when one motored in and tied up at the public jetty.

There seems to be some more additions added since its RAAF time, good to see the owners dispaly its origins on the side.



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Posted: Apr 15 2012, 11:09 AM
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The internet would have a lot more information and here is one example:

http://www.futurepd.org/les/Documents/NewBook%20A.pdf (2Mb)

“MARINE SECTION” the Forgotten Era of MEN & VESSELS By Leslie R. Jubbs
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Posted: Apr 15 2012, 12:02 PM
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There is another example of the same type currently based at Port Of Sale in Victoria
This photo was taken in the early 90s at Lakes Entrance
Note dummy machine gun on forward deck

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Posted: Apr 15 2012, 04:48 PM
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Bet the thirsty Hall Scots were removed and turned into anchors.

Great engines but but did they used to drink fuel

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Posted: Apr 15 2012, 05:52 PM
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The Victorian example has a pair of 6 cylinder Detroit deisels, still guzzles!
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Posted: Apr 15 2012, 10:33 PM
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Had a ride in one at Townsville in 1971, we went around Magnetic Island.
I thought I had a pic but all I can find is a view of the wake with the Island in the background.
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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:06 PM
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This one looks a little smaller
Stationed Papua New Guinea c 1944/45

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:09 PM
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from the other side

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:12 PM
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and smaller again!
(I guess if the Navy can have aircraft the RAAF can play with boats!)

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:23 PM
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A couple more.
I wonder just how many are still being used today

1960: RAAF ASR depot opposite submarine base HMAS PLATYPUS in Neutral Bay - Michael Melliar-Phelps.
1144. The boat in the foreground, 02-109, was formerly the Navy's HMAS AIR VIEW, transferred in the 1950s.

The black hull and buff tops are traditional for ASR vessels.

Photo: Michael Melliar-Phelps, it appears in Ross Guillett's book, 'Warships of Australia' [Rigby Australia, 1977] phot section, starting p160.


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Martin Edwards
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:29 PM
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Circa 1972-73: The RAAF crash boat 02-109, formerly HMAS AIR VIEW, in the Ross River at Townsville - Photo Geoff Green
(This boat is also in the photo above)

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:33 PM
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...another survivor, this one was offered for sale for $65,000


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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:35 PM
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I was wondering if this is the same boat that I pictured above "PT060"
Although at the same location it is another example

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Martin Edwards
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:45 PM
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This boat was made by Slazengers during the war using tennis raquet technology

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 07:47 PM
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Of course you had to get out to the flying boats

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 08:00 PM
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Some in Newcastle Harbour 25/09/1950

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Posted: Apr 18 2012, 08:12 PM
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they are still out there
This ad is currently on gumtree
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bendigo-sur...oat-/1001329638

A 38 foot RAAF Double Planked Wooden WW2. Crash Boat in Original Unrestored Condition. The Hull is basically sound. The upper works need complete rebuilding. The Original Number and RAAF Roundels are still scratched into the hull and are still visible. Was built by Halvorson NSW.1942. No Engines but original Copper Fuel Tanks, Steering gear and Mufflers are still there. Great project for someone with the money and the time. There is a model of this craft at the Point Cook Museum if you wish to see what they looked like.

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Posted: Apr 19 2012, 03:05 PM
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Martin,

Thats a great collection of runabouts that you've assembled here in this thread.

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Posted: Apr 19 2012, 03:08 PM
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Another example from the Phantom


A ketch flying the flag of the Royal Australian Air Force? It might look odd to some people but the ketch formerly known as the Yalata was taken over by the RAAF from the Navy in Adelaide, redesignated RAAF Ketch 06-11 and was attached to No.52 Operational Base Unit in June 1944 as a general purpose "launch"

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Posted: May 21 2012, 11:15 PM
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Here are two more Crash boats that have survived the 48ft 02-14 and the 63 ft Air View 02-109 in Westernport Victoria.

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Posted: May 21 2012, 11:20 PM
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02-109 converted to a cruiser in 1985

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Posted: May 21 2012, 11:33 PM
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Here is a shot of the 03-18 a 38ft crash boat built by Halvorsens Shipyard in1942.This particular boat has been shedded near Bendigo for the last 25 years .Unfortunately years out of the water have taken their toll.

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Posted: May 23 2012, 11:28 AM
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Hi Justiniantd, welcome aboard our humble messageboard.
It would appear that the RAAF boats have quite a reasonable survival rate and probably a higher percentage are still in use than some RAAF aircraft of the era.
I wonder if the boat pictured in Bendigo is the same example that is advertised above?
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Posted: May 23 2012, 08:37 PM
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Thanks Martin,yes it is the same boat as in the advertisement . Travelled to Bendigo to have a look at her.A sad state however she is still here.Really fascinated by the Marine Section that operated in WW2 and post.The 02-14 was instrumental last year in the discovery of the "TSS Coramba" that was lost in1934 with the loss of all hands. Attached is another photo of 02-14 "Action". PS the there are two boats one in Port of Sale and the other for sale in Paynesville,both are of the 46ft class.
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Posted: May 23 2012, 08:46 PM
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"Action " off Phillip Island.

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Posted: May 23 2012, 08:54 PM
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Here is a nice pic of RAN Air View 923 latter to become 02-109 taken in Darwin in 1944.These versatile little ships saved many lives during and after the war. 20 were delivered to Australia in 1944 .The Miami Class boats were 63ft .The Australian crash boats were built locally.Know of only four of the American Miami's that are still afloat.
The attached pic is from the AWM

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Posted: Mar 21 2013, 10:12 PM
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View of the 02-109 under restoration 2013

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I can see a murmering of a start to doc the histories of these boats on ADF-Serials!
"Don't look at me" :blink:

Maybe one day all of the Acco 4x4s and Series 11A Landrovers? :ph34r:

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Per attached,..heres a start. Did you know some of them were named?

O17-18 was named Camden pictured here under a wing of a Mariner at Milne Bay

It's IR Card thereunder

Want the cards? How about the Camo Specs per RAAF Boats? We gottem

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O2-109 Drawing per 1951 Cammo

Neato eh?

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Posted: Mar 22 2013, 03:13 PM
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I can see a murmering of a start to doc the histories of these boats on ADF-Serials!
"Don't look at me" 

Maybe one day all of the Acco 4x4s and Series 11A Landrovers? 

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Sorry Gordy but you are a little late, someone's beaten you to it
http://www.remlr.com/index_ARNs.html

(Thanks to the Phantom for that info)
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We'll I'll be !! Neato Man!!! :ph34r:

Lookin for my long lost buckets!!!

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Posted: Jun 19 2013, 09:31 AM
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Two barn find Hall Scotts.These 630hp V12's powered the 63ft Miami Class Boats .

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Posted: Feb 14 2014, 10:42 AM
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here is another. This one is on the Clyde River at Batemans bay. Not the clearest photo as I took it with my mobile phone. This boat sounds very powerful when its going...lots of growl from the engines and a distinct smell of diesel fuel :D

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Posted: Feb 14 2014, 10:44 AM
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...and another picture

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Posted: Feb 15 2014, 11:32 PM
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If anyone is really into these boats these photos are currently offered on ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/WW2-1943-6-PHOT...=item2583d601b3

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QUOTE (Warhawk @ Mar 22 2013, 11:36 AM)
O2-109 Drawing per 1951 Cammo

Neato eh?

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Gordy
I am interested in building a model of a crash boat. I have a drawing which shows the RAF version. I was wondering if you had a higher resolution scan of your drawing I could get a copy of. It would help with the differences between the versions
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Posted: Jun 22 2014, 11:58 AM
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One of those 'classic' SAR boats at Neutral Bay above is likely to have rescued the Sea Venom pilot in Sydney Harbour back in whenever. I'll post some text... Barry Riley knew the captain of the SAR Boat from Point Cook I think? I'll look that up also....

Dear Ed [Slipstream Magazine, FAAA, April 2000, Vol.11 No.2]

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"I have had my copy of 'Flying Stations' for several months, but only recently have I done more than flick through it looking at the photographs. I have still not read much of the book, but am impressed, with one exception, by what I have read so far.

The exception is the account (page 144) of the 'Checkmates' collision over Sydney Harbour in 1962, which leaves the reader with the impression that the team was performing at low level over, or dangerously close to, a populated area. According to the text 'the crashed pilot' said, 'I steered clear of the houses before ejecting'. I was the pilot; I said no such thing!

Despite the interposition of many years and several other traumatic experiences, I remember, I believe, the events of 02 October 1962 quite clearly:

'The sortie started badly with No.3 (Barry Roberts) going unserviceable on start-up. The other three of us departed on time, with me flying in No.3 position on the starboard wing, instead of my accustomed position 'in the box'. I was very worried about this because although I had flown formation aeros on the starboard wing before, I had not done so for over a year, and never in a display. However, a few minutes after take-off, Barry's aircraft became serviceable and he chased after us, joining the formation as we approached Botany Bay. I thankfully slid back into the box. We used to fly a very tight formation with the aircraft's wingtips overlapping and the two wingmen stepped up a little, their cockpits adjacent to the leaders tail. In the box I flew stepped down, with my cockpit adjacent to the tails of the wingmen.

Arriving over Sydney harbour we found a fine warm day with 3 to 4 eighths of cloud at about 3000 feet, a bit low for our purposes, but we elected to continue, looping through the clouds. However, the atmosphere below the cloud was very turbulent, making the necessary tight rolls very difficult for the wingmen. The formation was rather rough, and one of them, I can't remember which, complained. Our leader (Roley Waddell-Wood) elected to abbreviate the display, performing no further rolling manoeuvres. He briefed us over the air that we would perform only the bomb-burst and go home.

The 'bomb-burst' was performed by flying a loop, but on reaching the vertical position at the back of the loop the leader continued the loop. The two wingmen rolled ninety degrees to the left and right respectively, and the man in the box performed an aileron turn and pulled out in the opposite direction to the leader. This resulted in the aircraft flying off in separate directions at ninety degrees to each other. This time we reached the vertical dive position at 2500 to 3000 feet, under about 90% power accelerating through about 250 knots.

Because of the weather conditions, I suppose we were all relieved when we heard the 'Break' order. On hearing 'Break', I saw Barry Orr, on the port wing, roll and start to move off. Quickly, I glanced 'up' and right, couldn't see Barry Roberts and thought he must have already gone, so rolled hard right using full aileron and full right rudder.

As I reached the reciprocal course, my windscreen was suddenly full of Sea Venom. For an instant I was shocked to the point of inaction, then for an instant I was relieved, thinking that it was a near miss, but I was given no time to relax. My aircraft shuddered, I thought it was from hitting the jet wash, then flicked back to the left and began rapidly rotating anti-clockwise. I didn't know what was wrong, embarrassedly thinking that perhaps I had stalled the ailerons, which was possible in a Venom if it was too roughly handled.

Just then I heard the voice of the Observer (Dave Innes) in the lead aircraft calling, 'Are you alright number three?' I had a flash of irritation at this - I was number four, and anyway, I was too busy to answer.

Glancing at the Air Speed Indicator I read 110 knots. This didn't make sense, but I decided that I was in a spin. The ejection seat fitted to the Sea venom had a limitation of 5,000 feet in a dive or a spin and we were already below that. With the words 'five thousand feet ... five thousand feet' running through my brain I commenced spin recovery procedure - but the aircraft did not respond to any control movement.

Approaching 1,000 feet, I once again heard Dave Innes' voice, 'Are you alright number three - I think you've lost your left rudder!' I then realised that Barry Roberts was also in trouble, but didn't have time to think about the cause. At that altitude, with the Rate of Descent Indicator on the bottom stop, I realised that even should I recover control of the aircraft I was not going to recover from the ensuing dive.

A quick mental debate followed -, Eject? - What's the use? - Eject? - YES! - Transmit? I put my thumb on the transmit button and decided NO - there was no time. I thought, ' so this is what it is like to be killed!'

I ejected the canopy and pulled the ejection handle without taking the time to sit back correctly.

I felt each of the ejection seat's three cartridges go off individually, and the seat cushion reverberating as I struggled futilely to sit back in my seat. I felt a severe pain in my back, but didn't notice that my right foot had hit the instrument panel until later when it became bruised and sore. I felt deceleration as the seat's drag chute opened, and then a rush of air in my face as I was toppled forward out of my seat.

I was waiting to feel my parachute open, when, to my surprise, I hit the water quite firmly on my back and went under. Either the ejection or the water impact knocked the breath out of me and I was totally spatially disoriented; I had no idea which way was up, or which way I was moving. I struggled to hold my breath but was unable to do so, feeling froth bubbling around my mask I thought I was gasping in water. I heard myself say, 'Mae West, Mae West', and hastily inflated my lifejacket.

To my relief, I soon found myself on the surface. I was still wearing my pressure breathing mask and realised that I had not been breathing water, but 100% oxygen from the small parachute pack bottle. I took off the mask and released the parachute, my dinghy was no longer attached to my lifejacket but I stopped looking for it when I saw a RAAF crash boat approaching at high speed. The water felt good and the harbour looked beautiful.

The superbly handled boat stopped dead within a boat-hook's length of me and I was hauled aboard and taken to Garden Island - probably less than five minutes had elapsed from the time I had hit the water to being rescued.

Still trying to piece together what had happened, I enquired about Barry Roberts and was told that he was okay and on his way back to Nowra. I was told that we had collided, but when asked about the impact, I could only say that I hadn't felt it.


FOICEA, who had observed the accident, and later on the media, both asked the question as to when I had decided to eject. My reply was, 'when I was sure the aeroplane was going into the water', that is when I was sure that it was going to crash. The display was performed over the harbour; there was never any possibility of the aircraft crashing on land.

The team performed together several times after this accident, but we never discussed the collision amongst ourselves. I did not hear the evidence of the other witnesses, nor was I ever informed of the findings of the Board of Inquiry. It would be interesting to hear of Barry Roberts' recollection of the incident.

I write in the hope that the disputed statement will be corrected in the event of the book being reprinted. Albert Riley


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QUOTE (Warhawk @ Mar 22 2013, 11:36 AM)
O2-109 Drawing per 1951 Cammo

Neato eh?

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Gordy
Is it possible to get a higher resolution scan of this drawing. I wish to build a model of one of these boats and the drawings I have show the earlier version.
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Just noticed HMAS airwatch up for sale. http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mango-hill/...tch-/1062689525
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A recent photo of the ex-RAAF rescue boat that resides at Sale, Vic.
Photo by the current owner Harry Bowman

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Very nice....very nice indeed. ;)
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“SEA/AIR RESCUE VESSELS Ray Robertson of Gladstone Qld, kindly provided the photograph. It shows Air Mercy (925), Air Trail (916) and Air Speed (910) putting on a show for the camera....” SLIPSTREAM Oct 1992

https://www.faaaa.asn.au/wp-content/uploads...l-3-4-Oct92.pdf

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