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  Posted: Aug 13 2014, 03:09 PM
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Hi there I'm sure you've all seen the ADF Recruitment flick on YouTube in which a fully functional runway was built in 36 hours to land our biggest aircraft in our inventory a C-17 Globemaster III.

Impossible Airfield - Episode One

Impossible Airfield - Episode Two

Impossible Airfield - Episode Three

So I've just read that there is C-17B Globemaster IV which:

"The C-17B Globemaster IV is simply a C-17A, modified with larger high bypass turbofans. The turbofan placement has been moved to within the wing (for Coanda effect) to enable better STOL capability. It is COFFIN equipped to lessen crew requirements and is capable of taking on many supporting roles."

Some other wanker from the US reckons that the The C-17 is designed for Short Field Rough Field capable and this Mission was something that they did heaps of times during the Cold War and was nothing "special".

Anyways so we have SIX C-17s in service at the moment, as I can't get to the Globemaster page where ever it is (tried the search at the top) I was wondering if we have C-17As or C-17Bs STOL or a mix of both?

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Posted: Aug 13 2014, 03:21 PM
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Google is easy to use. Type in the main words starting each with a capital letter (to show Google what is important in the string - lowercase words are ignored if not in quotes). So anyway:

http://www.airforce.gov.au/Technology/Airc...ULT2D7U+C9pXnFB
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HERE: http://www.adf-serials.com.au/3a41.htm

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Posted: Aug 14 2014, 01:56 PM
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Cheers!! :D
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Posted: Aug 15 2014, 11:08 AM
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There is no such thing as a C-17B. If you researched things properly you would see that is was a PROPOSAL only by Boeing to the USAF back in 2007/8.

Boeing were desperately trying to get the USAF to buy more airframes as the production line was about to end and be closed down. The USAF said 'No Thanks'.

And the man from the USA is NOT the WANKER. The C-17 IS Short Field Rough Field capable and operates from dirt strips where required.

Learn to use Google properly which you are obviously not doing now......
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Posted: Aug 17 2014, 05:04 PM
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Actually, I think the KC-30 Sky Skoda is the largest aircraft in our inventory.
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Posted: Aug 30 2014, 03:00 PM
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Some other wanker from the US reckons that the C-17 is designed for Short Field Rough Field capable and this Mission was something that they did heaps of times during the Cold War and was nothing "special".
This would be what that "other wanker" was referring to, seems he was correct although I think he was referring to the conflict in Afghanistan rather than the cold war!

(IMG:http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/files/2009/09/tk-03-600x368.jpg)
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Posted: Aug 30 2014, 08:29 PM
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Decide for yourself if it can land on dirt/short field runways, watch the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diX3x6ffvSA

And take off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXnc_w2XwfY

And both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22F0aQBqwY


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Posted: Aug 31 2014, 04:54 AM
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Impressive indeed. Thanks for that.
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Posted: Aug 31 2014, 11:47 AM
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I agree, an impressive performance likely to be called on soon by the look of current affairs.
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Posted: Aug 31 2014, 05:36 PM
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How many times can you do that without having the replace the landing gears, put on new punctured or worn tires and clean out ALL the dirt and dust that has gotten into the engines and hydraulics compared to landing on a sealed runway?

Anybody want to guess the ratio and maintenance needed after a dirt runway compared to a sealed runway? So yes "The C-17 IS Short Field Rough Field capable and operates from dirt strips where required." but at what cost to the lifespan of the C-17 and the maintenance/cleaning needed after?

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Posted: Aug 31 2014, 06:11 PM
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The C-17's are cleaned inside and out on a regular basis.

The landing gear, tyres etc, are all subject to scheduled inspection, as is all the aircraft systems, and may also be subject to Special Surviving's that may be called out after specific events.

For instance most aircraft have a 'H' Servicing that is carried out after a heavy landing.

All of these servicing's are detailed in the relevant Servicing Schedules.

Air Forces have been doing this for a long time and in most cases they do it very well. Landing on dirt strips was normal for Caribou's and often C-130's.

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